gk_2000
03-28  08:45 PM
Brother Tony...just ignore him..he is a frustrated coward. These kind of people become brave in forums...I real life they are the most nicest people. Let him feel that he is the man.
 
MC
 
I try to be nice, until the other cheek gets slapped. Enough said.
MC
I try to be nice, until the other cheek gets slapped. Enough said.
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copsmart
01-23  01:08 PM
To be brief: 
 
Any location restrictions when using AC21?
 
I�ve been laid off as of Friday last week.
 
My employer started laying off people an year ago and there were too many cycles so far. I was immune to all those layoffs until Friday. They eliminated everybody in my team, 15 people in total.
 
I am in the final stage of my GC and I have 2 year EAD. My H1 is expiring in March and my (ex) employer already paid my Attorney for the 3 year extension. They have decided to extend my H1 and paid for the expenses. But in the mean time, they were forced by the investors to show profitability and hence the layoffs.
 
My (ex) employer is based in Massachusetts and my Labor Certification was done from this location.
I have received job offers from some of my employer�s clients. However, they are based in other States (CO, OH & WA for instance) and they might not be able to do my H1. One of them is interested in hiring me on a contract basis, since they had frozen new hiring.
 
Is taking a job outside of Massachusetts impact my pending I-485? or Will it violate my Labor Certification conditions? I couldn�t find an answer for this anywhere.
Also, can I take contract jobs for the time being?
 
I sent out an email to my Attorney with all these questions. But, he is not available until Tuesday next week.
 
Please post your answers, comments and suggestions.
 
Thanks!
Any location restrictions when using AC21?
I�ve been laid off as of Friday last week.
My employer started laying off people an year ago and there were too many cycles so far. I was immune to all those layoffs until Friday. They eliminated everybody in my team, 15 people in total.
I am in the final stage of my GC and I have 2 year EAD. My H1 is expiring in March and my (ex) employer already paid my Attorney for the 3 year extension. They have decided to extend my H1 and paid for the expenses. But in the mean time, they were forced by the investors to show profitability and hence the layoffs.
My (ex) employer is based in Massachusetts and my Labor Certification was done from this location.
I have received job offers from some of my employer�s clients. However, they are based in other States (CO, OH & WA for instance) and they might not be able to do my H1. One of them is interested in hiring me on a contract basis, since they had frozen new hiring.
Is taking a job outside of Massachusetts impact my pending I-485? or Will it violate my Labor Certification conditions? I couldn�t find an answer for this anywhere.
Also, can I take contract jobs for the time being?
I sent out an email to my Attorney with all these questions. But, he is not available until Tuesday next week.
Please post your answers, comments and suggestions.
Thanks!

panky72
06-23  05:18 PM
Called Rep Smith's office. The staffer who attended the phone already knew the bill no's and said that she will pass on the message.
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maddipati1
07-24  01:53 PM
being EB3I myself, it makes me happy to hear a fellow EB3I getting GC. having said that...
 
the only and correct question about this whole thing is,
 
Can & will CIS legally take back the GC (even if its their mistake), in future, when they find out?
 
The answer sadly is,
 
Yes, they can, they will, as they already did in a few instances, as reported in these forums.
 
Not contacting CIS to correct the mistake, with a hope of 'they won't notice' and a logic of 'well, it's their mistake and i have to plead ignorance' is like the idiom, hiding your head in the sand, the Ostrich Effect.
the only and correct question about this whole thing is,
Can & will CIS legally take back the GC (even if its their mistake), in future, when they find out?
The answer sadly is,
Yes, they can, they will, as they already did in a few instances, as reported in these forums.
Not contacting CIS to correct the mistake, with a hope of 'they won't notice' and a logic of 'well, it's their mistake and i have to plead ignorance' is like the idiom, hiding your head in the sand, the Ostrich Effect.
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Sachin_Stock
07-07  09:44 AM
I read some where that HR 5477 (SKIL Bill) is referred to Judiciary commitee of house.
 
What does it mean? Is there any favour for us?
 
Pleases clarify.
 
I have majored in Information Systems from New York, however, I am have a BS and not MS. I been for 6 years on H-1 by now. Does it qualify for any of the SKIL bill's previledges?
What does it mean? Is there any favour for us?
Pleases clarify.
I have majored in Information Systems from New York, however, I am have a BS and not MS. I been for 6 years on H-1 by now. Does it qualify for any of the SKIL bill's previledges?
reddog
04-10  02:04 PM
How do you check the comments when someone REDs you? I've been looking around but haven't found the link.
 
Try to add reputation to yourself, you will see all the Greens/Reds given to you for that comment, along with the comments on the reds.
Try to add reputation to yourself, you will see all the Greens/Reds given to you for that comment, along with the comments on the reds.
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willgetgc2005
03-17  11:44 AM
Frists Bill talks about advanced degree. So if u are in EB3 with an engineering degree from say India/China, does it cover such EB3 candidates ? Is his bill beneficial to only EB2 and above ?????!!!!!
 
someone please explain.
someone please explain.
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satyasaich
03-20  11:08 PM
I have got an RFE for 485 application. USCIS is asking me for Employment Letter, Paystubs and W2 for the employer I NEVER worked. (I have typed exact message below)
*
This is my situation-
I worked for 'Employer #1' from Jan-2000 to Jan-2005
Then I started working with 'Employer #2' from Jan-2005 to present. Employer #2 filed my H1/Labor/140/485. I am still working for Employer #2
*
However, I thought of changing job in 2006 and 'Employer X' offered me a job and sponsored my H1 and it got approved too, but I changed my mind and decided to continue with my current employer (Employer #2) and I am still with Employer #2. Please note my latest H1B was sponsored by “Employer X”, but I never worked for this Employer.
*
Please advice-
1) What should I send to USCIS? As I don’t have (can’t get) Employment Letter, Paystubs and W2 for “Employer X”
2) Would you consider this as simple case or complicated?
3) Should I hire attorney? (I self filed my 485 in July-2007)
*
*
This is the exact text - (changed Employer names)
Service records indicate that you were granted an H1-B nonimmigrant worker classification for employment from DEC 11, 2006 to DEC 11, 2009 for “Employer X"-. However, according to the G-325a submitted with your application, you had only worked for "Employer #1" from Jan-2000 to Jan-2005 and for the "Employer #2" from Jan-2005 to the present. Please provide evidence that you were employed with “Employer X". Such evidence may include copies of: employment letter, pay stubs or w2s
 
Thank you for your time and help.
 
First of all,based on the information you provided i believe that
1. You are continuously employed WITHOUT any gap, meaning working 40 hrs/ week and clean history of pay stubs, W2s etc
2. You have been working for only one employer at any given point of time, as a full time employee
IF What i said above is true, then RFE makes no sense. because based on the H1B rules and regulations, one can have multiple H1Bs BUT can only work for ONE employer as full time, meaning 40hrs/week.
It is also completely legal that one can work up to 20hrs/week for second employer by paying proper taxes . but in your case i believe that you have worked for only one employer and i think you can show the evidence.
Please contact your attorney and draft a response carefully
 
Please correct me if were wrong
*
This is my situation-
I worked for 'Employer #1' from Jan-2000 to Jan-2005
Then I started working with 'Employer #2' from Jan-2005 to present. Employer #2 filed my H1/Labor/140/485. I am still working for Employer #2
*
However, I thought of changing job in 2006 and 'Employer X' offered me a job and sponsored my H1 and it got approved too, but I changed my mind and decided to continue with my current employer (Employer #2) and I am still with Employer #2. Please note my latest H1B was sponsored by “Employer X”, but I never worked for this Employer.
*
Please advice-
1) What should I send to USCIS? As I don’t have (can’t get) Employment Letter, Paystubs and W2 for “Employer X”
2) Would you consider this as simple case or complicated?
3) Should I hire attorney? (I self filed my 485 in July-2007)
*
*
This is the exact text - (changed Employer names)
Service records indicate that you were granted an H1-B nonimmigrant worker classification for employment from DEC 11, 2006 to DEC 11, 2009 for “Employer X"-. However, according to the G-325a submitted with your application, you had only worked for "Employer #1" from Jan-2000 to Jan-2005 and for the "Employer #2" from Jan-2005 to the present. Please provide evidence that you were employed with “Employer X". Such evidence may include copies of: employment letter, pay stubs or w2s
Thank you for your time and help.
First of all,based on the information you provided i believe that
1. You are continuously employed WITHOUT any gap, meaning working 40 hrs/ week and clean history of pay stubs, W2s etc
2. You have been working for only one employer at any given point of time, as a full time employee
IF What i said above is true, then RFE makes no sense. because based on the H1B rules and regulations, one can have multiple H1Bs BUT can only work for ONE employer as full time, meaning 40hrs/week.
It is also completely legal that one can work up to 20hrs/week for second employer by paying proper taxes . but in your case i believe that you have worked for only one employer and i think you can show the evidence.
Please contact your attorney and draft a response carefully
Please correct me if were wrong
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delhiguy79
07-29  09:45 AM
Hey guys,
 
I hope u all may ve recieved the I-140 Reciept Notice by now.....
 
So lets track whose I-485 has been sent by now....
 
I will submit my papers to my employer tomorrow and he may send it by this week....
I hope u all may ve recieved the I-140 Reciept Notice by now.....
So lets track whose I-485 has been sent by now....
I will submit my papers to my employer tomorrow and he may send it by this week....
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hopefulgc
03-14  04:10 PM
Know of a few cases from immigration.com where a bunch of envelope PERM filed were pulled in for audit when they saw that a similar case had been filed for lower category in the past. The cases subject to audit were asked to follow through and actually interview the applicants. Losing the job is a real possibility. Think u might still be able to find a few of these if you searchthere.
 
That said everything is risky in life.. u don't succeed unless u take risks.
 
Question : Why is PERM risky ? I thought that is the only way to get LC now.
I am thinking of porting to EB2 (10 years + MBA) in US.
That said everything is risky in life.. u don't succeed unless u take risks.
Question : Why is PERM risky ? I thought that is the only way to get LC now.
I am thinking of porting to EB2 (10 years + MBA) in US.
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05-02  10:49 AM
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eb3India
06-09  03:42 PM
Gautamagg (Gautam Aggrwal) is Columban.
 
Gautam: If you have difference with Immigration Voice's position in opposing the merits based system that gives 21 points being illegal and 20 points for having MBA or MD, then you are entitled to have that opinion, but dont peddle your agenda on this site and find another website or forum to advocate in favor of merits based points system.
 
Merits based point system awards supplemental points for illegals. Being illegal is not an accomplishment. Having an MBA or MD is. The two cannot be awarded merits on the same scale.
 
Merits based point system works well in countries that dont have annual caps. Like Canada. Their objective in Canada is to fill the country with younger working population in order to balance to demograph that is headed to an aging population. USA is not like that and having points system in conjunction with numerical caps will cause greencard to go to paper-tiger resumes that have lots of points but not employable. There are millions of Ph.Ds in Science in India and China and they would not be employable here but would get GCs. Just like Canada, we would have greencard holders with Ph.Ds and MBBS driving cabs. Employability has nothing to do with papers that prove how many years you spend on colleges accumalating degrees.
 
A bachelor's degree from Harvard and a Bachelor's degree from Rutgers would get same points : 16 points. Is that really a measure of merits?
 
But again, if you feel that point system is great, issue press release on your own and peddle your agenda on your own but dont use this site to peddle that agenda. You are free to discuss with other members but dont issue press release and dont speak to the media on behalf of IV. Speak to the media as an individual.
 
The position of immigration voice on points system is very clear and it will stay that way.
 
I agree with you proposed pointbased system may not be good for us, but do you really think we have resources to change legislation,
 
what are we fighting for?, I think immigrationvoice is for people who are already here legally and waiting for green card, don't you think we need focus on our own agenda and stop chasing piggy back ride on CIR.
 
if we can influence to streamline current processes for faster approval of GCs, itz good enough for us.
 
I really don't think any lawmakers are going to take our advice when they draft these BS bills
Gautam: If you have difference with Immigration Voice's position in opposing the merits based system that gives 21 points being illegal and 20 points for having MBA or MD, then you are entitled to have that opinion, but dont peddle your agenda on this site and find another website or forum to advocate in favor of merits based points system.
Merits based point system awards supplemental points for illegals. Being illegal is not an accomplishment. Having an MBA or MD is. The two cannot be awarded merits on the same scale.
Merits based point system works well in countries that dont have annual caps. Like Canada. Their objective in Canada is to fill the country with younger working population in order to balance to demograph that is headed to an aging population. USA is not like that and having points system in conjunction with numerical caps will cause greencard to go to paper-tiger resumes that have lots of points but not employable. There are millions of Ph.Ds in Science in India and China and they would not be employable here but would get GCs. Just like Canada, we would have greencard holders with Ph.Ds and MBBS driving cabs. Employability has nothing to do with papers that prove how many years you spend on colleges accumalating degrees.
A bachelor's degree from Harvard and a Bachelor's degree from Rutgers would get same points : 16 points. Is that really a measure of merits?
But again, if you feel that point system is great, issue press release on your own and peddle your agenda on your own but dont use this site to peddle that agenda. You are free to discuss with other members but dont issue press release and dont speak to the media on behalf of IV. Speak to the media as an individual.
The position of immigration voice on points system is very clear and it will stay that way.
I agree with you proposed pointbased system may not be good for us, but do you really think we have resources to change legislation,
what are we fighting for?, I think immigrationvoice is for people who are already here legally and waiting for green card, don't you think we need focus on our own agenda and stop chasing piggy back ride on CIR.
if we can influence to streamline current processes for faster approval of GCs, itz good enough for us.
I really don't think any lawmakers are going to take our advice when they draft these BS bills
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Jimi_Hendrix
12-11  04:25 PM
See in Red.
Does that mean you are not one of us?
BTW I just asked another collegue in my office who is also an old IV member. He told me that you have a got a greencard recently. You were an IV member and you tried to hurt IV members by opposing the provision to file I485. You were scared that others with early PD will get to apply and your greencard will be delayed. I was stunned to find that we have such people posting on our forum and preaching others.
 
Probably your colleague did not tell you about the fact that I have contributed money to IV and the fact that I was the first to get together a group of people in SO Cal to get organized and talk. So there is always the other side of the story. I have never tried to hurt IV. That is an opinion your friend/you have expressed. I expressed my opposition to a certain stance that IV took, which I believe is quite democratic. Your reason about me worrying about people with earlier PDs being able to file is false. I had a very old PD myself. I was opposed to opening up the flood gates to allowing everyone to file for EAD and AP which would jam the whole I485 system. I was of the view that we try fixing Name check and I485 as a priority.
 
I still support IV and its cause.
Does that mean you are not one of us?
BTW I just asked another collegue in my office who is also an old IV member. He told me that you have a got a greencard recently. You were an IV member and you tried to hurt IV members by opposing the provision to file I485. You were scared that others with early PD will get to apply and your greencard will be delayed. I was stunned to find that we have such people posting on our forum and preaching others.
Probably your colleague did not tell you about the fact that I have contributed money to IV and the fact that I was the first to get together a group of people in SO Cal to get organized and talk. So there is always the other side of the story. I have never tried to hurt IV. That is an opinion your friend/you have expressed. I expressed my opposition to a certain stance that IV took, which I believe is quite democratic. Your reason about me worrying about people with earlier PDs being able to file is false. I had a very old PD myself. I was opposed to opening up the flood gates to allowing everyone to file for EAD and AP which would jam the whole I485 system. I was of the view that we try fixing Name check and I485 as a priority.
I still support IV and its cause.
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Robert Kumar
03-29  08:45 AM
It happened last year no reason why it should not happen again this year :)
 
In any case i really prefer all you EB2 I guys get their GC and get out of our way so that we EB3 I guys get our (GC) seeing that is the only way we will get ours. :D:D:D
 
At least if not GC i hope you guys get to file 485 to receive benefits like EAD and AP. Then you will not have to worry about going to India for a vacation. I know it is painfull to go to the embassy again for stamping.
 
 
OK, NOW divert all your energies to my thread I just created with sub 'Good news for EB2" as below::
 
 
I dont want to raise your hopes too much , but this is from immigration-law.com.
So stop whining and all those posts against other categories. Lets hope the best.. EB2 guys. Pray somehting for us, EB3 s also.
 
03/09/2011: May 2011 EB-2 Cut-Off Date Substantial Move-Ahead Predicted
 
AILA has reported that the EB-2 cut-off dates in Visa Bulletin in May 2011 may progress ahead substantially because of large unused EB-1 numbers since October 2010 since it has about 12,000 unused EB-2 numbers. Very good news from AILA and Mr. Oppenheim.
In any case i really prefer all you EB2 I guys get their GC and get out of our way so that we EB3 I guys get our (GC) seeing that is the only way we will get ours. :D:D:D
At least if not GC i hope you guys get to file 485 to receive benefits like EAD and AP. Then you will not have to worry about going to India for a vacation. I know it is painfull to go to the embassy again for stamping.
OK, NOW divert all your energies to my thread I just created with sub 'Good news for EB2" as below::
I dont want to raise your hopes too much , but this is from immigration-law.com.
So stop whining and all those posts against other categories. Lets hope the best.. EB2 guys. Pray somehting for us, EB3 s also.
03/09/2011: May 2011 EB-2 Cut-Off Date Substantial Move-Ahead Predicted
AILA has reported that the EB-2 cut-off dates in Visa Bulletin in May 2011 may progress ahead substantially because of large unused EB-1 numbers since October 2010 since it has about 12,000 unused EB-2 numbers. Very good news from AILA and Mr. Oppenheim.
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va_dude
09-18  10:15 AM
Hey...Green_Always
 
Just realized that your PD is Oct 2001. Holy cow!!
 
That is way back man. I feel your pain.
 
-R
Just realized that your PD is Oct 2001. Holy cow!!
That is way back man. I feel your pain.
-R
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Jaime
09-11  03:40 PM
Are you EB3? Your wait just got much longer! (October visa bulletin), what better reason to change your mind and come to DC????
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lskreddy
09-12  11:10 AM
Initially when I first got here, I was elated at a wonderful process to elect the President. It seems like the whole country was interviewing the person for a position. After having witnessed the one in 2000, 2004 and now this one, the entire questioning process is a waste of time and mere charade.
 
The issues at hand are so go damn complex where no one liners or one minuters could do justice. They always seem to have answers for every god damn question which is just impossible. Even the most intelligent person usually comes to an area where he has not framed his answer and would like to consult.
 
Specialized topic like Stem Cells to global issues of Global Warming, War, Poverty and very personal issues like religion and abortion, these folks seem to have the right answer in one minute.
 
By listening to their answers, you are generally getting deceived. While all this is said and done, people however 'third-world' or 'first-world' they are seem to vote for the party and not the person. So, war-mongers and most arrogant pricks would still vote for McCain and others may end up with Obama.
 
After all this rant, what does it mean for us in terms of legal immigration? Nothing -- coz you really do not know what they actually think and will do when they become one.
The issues at hand are so go damn complex where no one liners or one minuters could do justice. They always seem to have answers for every god damn question which is just impossible. Even the most intelligent person usually comes to an area where he has not framed his answer and would like to consult.
Specialized topic like Stem Cells to global issues of Global Warming, War, Poverty and very personal issues like religion and abortion, these folks seem to have the right answer in one minute.
By listening to their answers, you are generally getting deceived. While all this is said and done, people however 'third-world' or 'first-world' they are seem to vote for the party and not the person. So, war-mongers and most arrogant pricks would still vote for McCain and others may end up with Obama.
After all this rant, what does it mean for us in terms of legal immigration? Nothing -- coz you really do not know what they actually think and will do when they become one.
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LostInGCProcess
08-21  09:11 PM
When did you send your application. 
 
I am in the same boat waiting for their call. :D
 
I sent in the middle of July.
I am in the same boat waiting for their call. :D
I sent in the middle of July.
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07-11  01:18 PM
Did you get updates from your lawyer.Please share.
logiclife
09-19  04:52 PM
To everyone who thinks rallies dont make a difference, as illustrated here by a skeptic : http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13583 
 
This is not an attack post. Or a criticizing post. This is purely educational and please keep this thread clean.
 
I know there are many out there who are snickering in their cubicles looking at the pictures of the rally and thinking "Look at these idiots, they think Congress will pass SKIL bill because they walked 1.2 miles with some placards and banners".
 
Such thinking is reasonable. But only if you dont know how things work.
 
Here is why rally of Sept 18th will be consequential:
 
1. When you do a rally, people notice. People recognize organization and measure its strength. It stays in their heads for a long time and they keep Immigration Voice as one of the organizations they can ask for support when they push for their own cause. In Congress, things work based on compromise, consensus and consultation. People dont just sponsor legislations they believe in. They run it thru their caucus and leadership and do a vote count. To find out how many votes would they get if they came up with this new idea. Whether it will get 218 votes in House. Whether they will get 51 votes in senate. If its filibuster proof and get 61 votes in Senate. Whether it has committee support. Whether leadership offices are in agreement to put it in schedule. All this happens in background and there are people who are hired in committees just to do vote counts on proposed ideas. IF it turns out they dont find enough support, they drop it. If they think they can pull it off, they approach leadership (Speaker in House, Maj leader in Senate) to put it in queue.
 
2. Let us say that Congressman X wants to sponser DREAM Act because of his constituency or a senator (like Feinstein) wants to sponsor AgJobs because food growers are having food rotten in absence of agricultural workers, a compelling cause. Now, when they want to pass legislation, they have to look for support and votes as described in item 1. When they fall short, they find ways to sweeten the pot. IF they see that a powerful organization will throw in their support and lobbying in favor of their bill if they attach a few of that organization's provisions, then they approach them. Immigration Voice did 138 lawmakers meetings (in House and Senate). They did the rally. They would consider IV as a organization that can help them PUSH for their legislation. Now we have a place at the negotiating table. If they attach our provisions (like recapture, or GC quota increase), then we can promise to do something for them. Like support the entire bill they are pushing for. They know that we can do rallies and we can do hundreds of lawmaker meetings. If Diane Feinstein (just an example) thinks that by adding skilled employment based reform provisions she can get IV's support and swing a few votes to help her pass her favorite AgJobs bill, then we have opportunity where the Senator would ask us what we want rather than us going and asking them to do things for us. One of IV members said that on the day of the rally, suddenly the office of her senator called her and scheduled and appointment to meet the same day at 4:00 PM. She had been trying to get the appointment but after they rally and Roll call newspaper ad (http://immigrationvoice.org/media/forums/iv/rollcal3a.pdf), they called her to listen to her. I heard about this from her just as the rally was over.
 
3. CIR has recently failed. From some meetings, I got the feeling that CIR's failure has left a bad taste in mouth and many people in Congress as well as administration are very upset about it still. Now that we have done this rally, done lawmaker meetings, put a rollcall ad, did the media blitz, press conference, congressional reception (where 4 congressmen attended and spoke in IV's support), they know that it would be a good idea to keep IV on their side and put some of their things in a bill. Next time they write a bill (behind closed doors very often), they will consult us and ask us if they can do something for IV to win IV's full support. That's because by getting IV's support on their side for whatever they are doing, they can be assured that we wont oppose it but instead support it. With phone calls, Rallies, paid ads, lawmaker meetings etc. If they are really investing in getting a bill passed, they would include our provisions just to increase the odds.
 
Strength respects strength. If we have the strength to do things and make a difference (rallies, meetings, receptions, press conferences, paid ads), then that strength begets more strenght because other powers want us to join hands with them so that they can do their favorite things (AgJobs, DREAM etc).
This is not an attack post. Or a criticizing post. This is purely educational and please keep this thread clean.
I know there are many out there who are snickering in their cubicles looking at the pictures of the rally and thinking "Look at these idiots, they think Congress will pass SKIL bill because they walked 1.2 miles with some placards and banners".
Such thinking is reasonable. But only if you dont know how things work.
Here is why rally of Sept 18th will be consequential:
1. When you do a rally, people notice. People recognize organization and measure its strength. It stays in their heads for a long time and they keep Immigration Voice as one of the organizations they can ask for support when they push for their own cause. In Congress, things work based on compromise, consensus and consultation. People dont just sponsor legislations they believe in. They run it thru their caucus and leadership and do a vote count. To find out how many votes would they get if they came up with this new idea. Whether it will get 218 votes in House. Whether they will get 51 votes in senate. If its filibuster proof and get 61 votes in Senate. Whether it has committee support. Whether leadership offices are in agreement to put it in schedule. All this happens in background and there are people who are hired in committees just to do vote counts on proposed ideas. IF it turns out they dont find enough support, they drop it. If they think they can pull it off, they approach leadership (Speaker in House, Maj leader in Senate) to put it in queue.
2. Let us say that Congressman X wants to sponser DREAM Act because of his constituency or a senator (like Feinstein) wants to sponsor AgJobs because food growers are having food rotten in absence of agricultural workers, a compelling cause. Now, when they want to pass legislation, they have to look for support and votes as described in item 1. When they fall short, they find ways to sweeten the pot. IF they see that a powerful organization will throw in their support and lobbying in favor of their bill if they attach a few of that organization's provisions, then they approach them. Immigration Voice did 138 lawmakers meetings (in House and Senate). They did the rally. They would consider IV as a organization that can help them PUSH for their legislation. Now we have a place at the negotiating table. If they attach our provisions (like recapture, or GC quota increase), then we can promise to do something for them. Like support the entire bill they are pushing for. They know that we can do rallies and we can do hundreds of lawmaker meetings. If Diane Feinstein (just an example) thinks that by adding skilled employment based reform provisions she can get IV's support and swing a few votes to help her pass her favorite AgJobs bill, then we have opportunity where the Senator would ask us what we want rather than us going and asking them to do things for us. One of IV members said that on the day of the rally, suddenly the office of her senator called her and scheduled and appointment to meet the same day at 4:00 PM. She had been trying to get the appointment but after they rally and Roll call newspaper ad (http://immigrationvoice.org/media/forums/iv/rollcal3a.pdf), they called her to listen to her. I heard about this from her just as the rally was over.
3. CIR has recently failed. From some meetings, I got the feeling that CIR's failure has left a bad taste in mouth and many people in Congress as well as administration are very upset about it still. Now that we have done this rally, done lawmaker meetings, put a rollcall ad, did the media blitz, press conference, congressional reception (where 4 congressmen attended and spoke in IV's support), they know that it would be a good idea to keep IV on their side and put some of their things in a bill. Next time they write a bill (behind closed doors very often), they will consult us and ask us if they can do something for IV to win IV's full support. That's because by getting IV's support on their side for whatever they are doing, they can be assured that we wont oppose it but instead support it. With phone calls, Rallies, paid ads, lawmaker meetings etc. If they are really investing in getting a bill passed, they would include our provisions just to increase the odds.
Strength respects strength. If we have the strength to do things and make a difference (rallies, meetings, receptions, press conferences, paid ads), then that strength begets more strenght because other powers want us to join hands with them so that they can do their favorite things (AgJobs, DREAM etc).
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